On this episode of Anchored, Jeremy is joined by Tracy Gardner, CLT's Chief Operating Officer. Tracy discusses her love for tests from a young age, her journey to becoming a psychometrician, and how it ultimately led her to CLT. She also shares her relationship with religion, her conversion to Catholicism at the age of 24, and her experience as a Catholic student at the University of Pittsburgh. She discusses her dilemma of creating tests for public schools, and how doing that went against the kind of education she wanted to provide her children. She explains that discovering and working with CLT allowed her to combine her love for testing and classical education.